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  • J2569M HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches
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Alerts
» Q: How are the Alert Page and the Alert Log database associated?
» Q: How do I view closed alerts that are still saved in the Alert Log database?
Automatic management
» Q: From the Automatic Configuration Management screen (Policies - Configuration Policies - Security), when trying to delete the community named "public" on the Security Policy page, why is the warning "removing public could cause device communication problems" displayed?
» Q: Does the Automatic Configuration Management feature require that a "write" community name be explicitly configured in order to perform automatic management for HP Toptools for Hubs & hubs, switches, and routing switches?

Design options
» Q: How do I configure trap receivers for the HP Toptools for Hubs & Advancestack 10Base-T Switching Hubs and HP Toptools for Hubs & ProCurve 12- and 24-Port 10Base-T Hubs that I manage via my Web browser?

Discovery
» Q: Why isn't a map shown in the map window after I run Discovery when I use a non-English NT 4.0 platform?
» Q: How do I force a manual discovery and mapping of my network?

Features
» Q: What are the new features or fixes in HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches 5.5 (version R.05.17)?
» Q: Are RMON and RMON2 supported in HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools?
» Q: What are the differences between RMON, RMON2, and HP Toptools for Hubs & Extended RMON (XRMON)?
» Q: What happens if the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools "traffic data collector settings" is set to "manual" and you either do not add any device to be monitored or you add one device but do not select any of its ports for collection of HP Toptools for Hubs & extended RMON data?

Feneral product information
» Q: What is HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches and what does it do?
» Q: What is the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Device Manager?
» Q: If I change the time setting on my HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches server, do the Performance Tools immediately recognize the change?
» Q: Are there situations where both the Software Update Utility and Download Manager Utility will have to be used to update software on a group of HP Toptools for Hubs & networking devices?
» Q: What is an HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools server? HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools client? What are the differences?
» Q: Are dual- or multi-homed PCs supported?
» Q: Can HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches run on a DHCP client?

Installation
» Q: Why does a directory remain after uninstalling HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches?
» Q: How long do the Discovery and Topology operations take to complete?

Services
» Q: What are HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services?
» Q: How do I view the status of HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services?
» Q: Why would I need to stop HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services?
» Q: How do I stop and restart HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services?
» Q: When I stop HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services from the Windows NT Control Panel-Services window, the services do not stay off. Why?

Troubleshooting
» Q: Are there any known issues with HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches 5.5 (version R.05.17)?
» Q: Why isn't a map shown in the map window after I run Discovery when I use a non-English NT 4.0 platform?
» Q: From the Automatic Configuration Management screen (Policies -> Configuration Policies -> Security), when trying to delete the community named "public" on the Security Policy page, why is the warning "removing public could cause device communication problems" displayed?
» Q: Why do I sometimes get an error trying to launch a device Closeup View if I am logged into the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Server from a client?
» Q: The Security LEDs on my devices light up after I install HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches. What's wrong?
» Q: HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches runs progressively slower over time. What's wrong?
» Q: My network does not have a DNS server, and the browser appears to hang. What's wrong?
» Q: When I request a new map view, go to a segment view, or do a Locate from Traffic Monitor or the current map, I get an error message that I cannot connect to the server. What's wrong?

Answers

Q: What is HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches and what does it do?

HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches is a completely web-based and SNMP-based network management application for use on LANs that have Hewlett-Packard networking devices. The interface lets you perform at your desk most, though not all, of the device management tasks you would otherwise perform in the wiring closet hooked up to the console port. It also lets you keep track of traffic patterns, display topological maps of the network, and plan for network growth.

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Q: What is the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Device Manager?

The HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Device Manager (also referred to as the "HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools core") is a set of services used by HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches. HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Device Manager must be installed in order for HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches to operate.

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Q: Why isn't a map shown in the map window after I run Discovery when I use a non-English NT 4.0 platform?

The display of maps is not supported when using non-English NT 4.0 platforms.

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Q: From the Automatic Configuration Management screen (Policies - Configuration Policies - Security), when trying to delete the community named "public" on the Security Policy page, why is the warning "removing public could cause device communication problems" displayed?

Deleting the community named "public" disables many network management functions such as Discovery, Traffic Monitoring, and Threshold Settings. If security for network management is a concern, it is recommended that you change the write access for the "public" community to "restricted".

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Q: Does the Automatic Configuration Management feature require that a "write" community name be explicitly configured in order to perform automatic management for HP Toptools for Hubs & hubs, switches, and routing switches?

Yes. A "write" community name must be explicitly configured and displayed within the Security section of the Automatic Configuration Management page (Policies -> Configuration Policies -> Security). By default, the "write" community name of "public" is configured and displayed.

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Q: If I change the time setting on my HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches server, do the Performance Tools immediately recognize the change?

No. You must exit and then restart the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools browser before the time change is recognized by the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches Performance Tools.

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Q: Are there situations where both the Software Update Utility and Download Manager Utility will have to be used to update software on a group of HP Toptools for Hubs & networking devices?

Yes. For older devices, the Download Manager Utility in HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches is used to update device software, whereas, for newer devices, the Software Update Utility is used. If you select a set of devices such that some require the use of the Software Update Utility and some require the Download Manager Utility, you will have to use both utilities. A page will be displayed listing the devices supported by the older Download Manager Utility followed by a list of the devices supported by the Software Update Utility. After each list is a link to launch either utility.

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Q: Why do I sometimes get an error trying to launch a device Closeup View if I am logged into the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Server from a client?

The Closeup View for devices that are not Browser manageable can only be launched directly from the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools server, not from a client logged into the server. If you try to launch the Closeup View from a client logged into the server, you will get the following error message:

Legacy Device Management Information

The device you selected can only be managed from
the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Management Workstation

To obtain generic SNMP information about this device, select:
"Properties" from the Action menu on the Devices screen

To try and establish a telnet session to this device, select:
"Telnet" from the Action menu on the Devices screen

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Q: What is an HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools server? HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools client? What are the differences?

The user installs and executes HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools and its applications (such as HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches) on the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools server. The user may access the user interface on the server or, optionally, on a remote client running the Microsoft Internet Explorer Web browser (version 5.0 or greater) or Netscape Communicator 4.51 or greater. The only restrictions to using a remote client are that the user cannot access the Closeup View for certain older devices (see the list of devices that support the web browser interface) and the user cannot access the HP Toptools for Hubs & Download Manager for updating device software. Closeup View and HP Toptools for Hubs & Download Manager are available on the server.

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Q: Are dual- or multi-homed PCs supported?

Dual- or multi-homed PCs are not supported.

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Q: Can HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches run on a DHCP client?

The HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools server may be a DHCP client, but it must receive a statically configured IP address from the DHCP server. That is, the server's IP address must not change. This restriction does not apply to the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools client.

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Q: How long do the Discovery and Topology operations take to complete?

For 350 nodes, Discovery takes approximately 10 minutes and Topology takes approximately 35 minutes. For 400 nodes, it would take approximately 1 hour for both operations to complete. The times will vary depending on the amount of network bandwidth available to HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools while the Discovery and Topology operations are running.

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Q: What are HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services?

HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services control the background processes that are central to the product.

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Q: How do I view the status of HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services?

From the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools navigation frame, click Settings and select HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services.

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Q: Why would I need to stop HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services?

You may wish to stop the Toptools Services when performing tasks such as server maintenance, database repair, server shutdown, etc.

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Q: How do I stop and restart HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services?

To stop HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services:
  1. From the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools navigation frame, click
  2. Settings and select HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services.
  3. Click Stop Services.

To restart HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services:
  1. From the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools navigation frame, click
  2. Settings and select HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services.
  3. Click Start Services.

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Q: When I stop HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services from the Windows NT Control Panel-Services window, the services do not stay off. Why?

In most situations HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services should not be stopped through the Windows NT Control Panel-Services window. If you stop HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services through the Windows NT Control Panel, the HP Toptools for Hubs & TopTools Services will start up again after a short while. HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services should be stopped from within the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools user interface as described above in the FAQ "How do I stop and restart HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools Services?"

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Q: How are the Alert Page and the Alert Log database associated?

The Alert Log database holds all new, open, and closed alerts that have not been deleted. The Alert Page displays only those Alerts from the Alert Log database that are not being filtered. By default, all new and open alerts are displayed in the Alert page. Closed alerts are not displayed

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Q: How do I view closed alerts that are still saved in the Alert Log database?

Closed alerts can be viewed from the Alert Page by setting the Alerts filter as follows:
  1. In the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools home page, click Alerts and View Alerts.
  2. In the Alert page, click Choose Filters. The Choose Alerts Log Filter window will appear
  3. From the "Filter by Alert State" field, select "Closed."
    Deselect "New" and "Open" if you want only closed alerts to be displayed in the Alerts Page.
  4. Click OK.

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Q: The Security LEDs on my devices light up after I install HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches. What's wrong?

Using HP Toptools for Hubs & Web JetAdmin on your network along with HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches will cause the security LED on network devices to light. This happens because HP Toptools for Hubs & Web JetAdmin tries to access network devices using a nonstandard community name, "internal". This community name conflicts with those already known to HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools. HP Toptools for Hubs & Web JetAdmin does not otherwise affect the operation of your network devices.

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Q: HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches runs progressively slower over time. What's wrong?

There are two possibilities:
  • Running your web browser without interruption over time consumes virtual memory. Left unattended for a long enough period, it may slow the operation of HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools and other applications running on that computer. To free up the lost virtual memory, close the browser window every couple days and re-invoke it, then bring up HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools.
  • Your Alert Log may be overloaded. Having too many alerts in the alert database can slow down CPU performance. Follow the instructions above in the FAQ "How do I clear the Alert Log Database?".

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Q: My network does not have a DNS server, and the browser appears to hang. What's wrong?

If your network does not have a DNS server, there is a wait of at least 4 minutes when you attempt to access a device through the web browser interface; the browser will appear to hang. Thereafter, performance remains sluggish. If you do have a DNS server, this is not a problem. To workaround this issue, add the IP address and alias of every device you want to manage to the file "drivers/etc/hosts". This file must be edited on every PC from which net management will be done through the web browser interface.

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Q: When I request a new map view, go to a segment view, or do a Locate from Traffic Monitor or the current map, I get an error message that I cannot connect to the server. What's wrong?

When you try to perform these actions, and if you have an incorrect version of the "vbajet32.dll" file in "\winnt\system32\", you will get an error message stating that you cannot connect to the server. The version of this file commonly found on computers which causes this issue is 5.0.7122. The correct version to use with HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools is 3.0.6908, and is included on the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches CD-ROM, and normally is installed unless the version on your system is read-only and you choose during installation not to overwrite it. To resolve the issue, copy the version of "vbajet32.dll" from the "\Toptools\HP Toptools for Hubs &wnd\system\" directory to your "\winnt\system32\" directory.

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Q: How do I force a manual discovery and mapping of my network?

Select SETTINGS - DISCOVERY and scroll to the bottom of the screen.

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Q: How do I configure trap receivers for the HP Toptools for Hubs & Advancestack 10Base-T Switching Hubs and HP Toptools for Hubs & ProCurve 12- and 24-Port 10Base-T Hubs that I manage via my Web browser?

You cannot configure this SNMP information from the Web Browser user interface nor from the console. To access the SNMP configuration screen for these devices, perform the following steps:

 1.Select the device from the appropriate topology map:
   For HP Toptools for Hubs & Advancestack Assistant for Windows: HP Toptools for Hubs & ASA Topology View
 For HP Toptools for Hubs & Advancestack Assistant for Openview NNM/NT: NNM Topology Map
 For HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches: Maps
 2.Right mouse click to bring up the popup menu.
 3.Select the SNMP menu item:
   For HP Toptools for Hubs & Advancestack Assistant for Windows: 'SNMP Config'
 For HP Toptools for Hubs & Advancestack Assistant for Openview NNM/NT: 'SNMP Configure Hub/Bridge' or use the menu selection 'Monitor->SNMP Configuration'
 For HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches: 'SNMP/TRAP Configuration...'
 4.The "Device Configuration" window will then appear. This window has the following areas, or tabs, for SNMP configuration: Thresholds, Trap Receivers, Community Names, & Authorized Managers.

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Q: What are the new features or fixes in HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches 5.5 (version R.05.17)?

HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches 5.5 (product number J2569R) supports management for the HP Toptools for Hubs & ProCurve Switch 4108gl (product number J4865A).

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Q: Are RMON and RMON2 supported in HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools?

RMON is supported, but RMON2 is not supported. HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools does have the ability to manipulate set RMON thresholds in HP Toptools for Hubs & ProCurve devices and receive RMON events generated by those devices. It does not utilize the RMON2 functionality available in the HP Toptools for Hubs & ProCurve Switch 4108gl.

HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools also utilizes the HP Toptools for Hubs & Extended RMON functionality to provide the Traffic Monitor feature (which provides TopN functionality similar to RMON groups 5 and 6) and NPA reporting.

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Q: What are the differences between RMON, RMON2, and HP Toptools for Hubs & Extended RMON (XRMON)?

Each of these is a specification that is supported (primarily) by devices.

 RMON is made up of 10 groups or functions. Most managed HP Toptools for Hubs & ProCurve devices support RMON by specifically supporting:
   group 1 (statistics)
 group 2 (history)
 group 3 (alarms)
 group 9 (events)
 RMON2 adds 9 more groups. The HP Toptools for Hubs & ProCurve Switch 4108gl supports the RMON groups listed above and adds group 19 (probeConfig) from RMON2.
 HP Toptools for Hubs & Extended RMON is a proprietary specification that defines a method for statistical sampling of network traffic in order to provide traffic analysis. With XRMON, HP Toptools for Hubs & has a solution to provide network-wide traffic analysis with very low overhead on network resources.

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Q: What happens if the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools "traffic data collector settings" is set to "manual" and you either do not add any device to be monitored or you add one device but do not select any of its ports for collection of HP Toptools for Hubs & extended RMON data?

You will receive a message in the NT application event log called "TrafficCD". You can ignore this message because the traffic collector will still collect the HP Toptools for Hubs & extended RMON data. The message does not indicate a problem with the configuration of the traffic data collector.

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Q: Why does a directory remain after uninstalling HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches?

Uninstall sometimes does not completely remove all directories. After a complete uninstall you can manually remove the "HP Toptools for Hubs &WND" directory.

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Q: Are there any known issues with HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools for Hubs & Switches 5.5 (version R.05.17)?

Known issues are discussed in the "Toptools for Hubs & Switches V5.5" section of the HP Toptools for Hubs & Toptools 5.5 Release Notes

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