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This FAQ is intended for use with the following ProCurve Series 8100fl switches:
  • ProCurve Switch 8108fl (8-slot chassis)
  • ProCurve Switch 8116fl (16-slot chassis)

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Both switches use the same interface modules and command line functions and are referred to together in this FAQ as the 8100fl switch, or the 8100fl.

General Product Details
» Q: What is the purpose of an InterConnect switch?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support PoE?
» Q: Are there new commands or any differences from other ProCurve products?
» Q: Are modules interchangeable between the 8108fl and 8116fl switches?
» Q: What is the maximum number of ports each chassis can support?
» Q: What is the throughput of the 8108fl?
» Q: What is the throughput of the 8116fl?
» Q: What is the routing switch capacity for the 8100fl?
» Q: What is included when purchasing an 8108fl (J8727A) and 8116fl (J8728A) Chassis?
» Q: How long is the warranty for the ProCurve Series 8100fl switches?

Configuration interfaces
» Q: What interfaces are available to configure the 8100fl?

Modules
» Q: When my primary management module fails do I need to copy the configuration to the secondary management module?
» Q: Do modules have LEDs that provide operational status of the switch and network connections?
» Q: What modules are available for the ProCurve Series 8100fl switches?
» Q: What Mini-GBICs are supported on the 10-Port Mini-GBIC Module (J8735A)?
» Q: What transceivers are supported in the 1-Port 10GbE X2 Interface Module (J8736A)?
» Q: Are any network cables provided?
» Q: What 8100fl modules are not non-blocking?

Tables
» Q: How many addresses can the routing table hold?

Features
» Q: Does the 8100fl support access control lists?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support port mirroring?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support Jumbo frames?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support Multiple Spanning Tree?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (VRRP)?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support Port trunking?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support multicast snooping?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support layer 3 standards based routing protocols?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support hot swapping of modules?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support rate limiting?

QOS
» Q: Does the 8100fl support QoS (Quality of Service)?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support PIM Dense Mode (PIM-DM)?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support configurations that guarantee minimum bandwidth per-port?

Redundancy
» Q: How many power supplies are required for the 8108fl and 8116fl switches to be fully redundant?
» Q: Do the ProCurve Series 8100fl switches support a redundant management module in case the primary management module fails?
» Q: When my primary management module fails do I need to copy the configuration to secondary management module?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support a redundant switch fabric?
» Q: How long does it take to switch from primary switch fabric to secondary?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (VRRP)?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support hot swapping of modules?

Security
» Q: Does the 8100fl support access control lists?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support VLANs and tagging?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support SSHv2?
» Q: Does the 8100fl support switch management logon security?
» Q: Does the 8100fl provide protection from denial of services attacks?
» Q: How many administrative Privilege levels are there on the 8100fl?

Answers

Q: What is the purpose of an InterConnect switch?
InterConnect switches, such as the 8100fl, are designed to provide high bandwidth, high availability, and high performance connectivity between Intelligent Edge devices.

Q: Does the 8100fl support PoE?
No, it does not support PoE.

Q: Are there new commands or any differences from other ProCurve products?
Yes, the ProCurve 8100fl switch uses a LAG command, typically configured on other ProCurve devices via the 'trunk' command. Read below for more information regarding the LAG command:

  • LAG - Link Aggregation Group
Link aggregation on the 8100fl switch has the following features and characteristics:
  • A link aggregation is a group of two or more physical ports that have been combined into a single logical port.
  • Link aggregations allow administrators to increase bandwidth at congestion points in the network, eliminating potential traffic bottlenecks.
  • Link aggregations perform load balancing , and load sharing across a number of ports. As flows are set up on the LAG, traffic is balanced across all egress ports in the combined link, balancing overall available bandwidth.
  • Link aggregations also provide improved data link resiliency-if one link fails, its flows are distributed among the remaining links.
  • Link aggregations can interoperate with other ProCurve switching platforms, as well as switches, routers, and servers from other vendors.
Link aggregations are compatible with all switch features, including VLANs, STP, VRRP, and so on. In fact, switch link aggregation supports the bridging of any type of traffic, including protocols not currently supported. Non-IP traffic is passed using the source and destination MAC headers. IP traffic is passed on L2, L3, or L4 header information.

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Terminology differences   
8100fl switchOther ProCurve switches
Access mode/trunk modeUntagged/tagged port
Aggregator or LAGTrunk Group
Command Differences   
Configuration item8100flOther ProCurve
Untagged VLAN trafficswitchport mode access vlan
switchport trunk-native-vlan
untagged
Tagged VLAN trafficswitchport mode trunk
switchport trunk-vlan
tagged
Aggregated linksaggregator
interface
LAG
trunk trk

Q: Are modules interchangeable between the 8108fl and 8116fl switches?
Yes, all modules except the redundant switch fabric modules can work in either chassis.

Q: What is the maximum number of ports each chassis can support?

  • The 8108fl supports a maximum of 8 10GbE ports or 80 100/1000 ports, or 80 mini-GBICs, or a combination.
  • The 8116fl supports 16 10GbE ports, 160 100/1000 ports, or 160 mini-GBICs, or a combination.

Q: What is the throughput of the 8108fl?
Maximum ports of 8 10GbE or 80 GbE ports, The throughput is up to 119 million packets per second.

Q: What is the throughput of the 8116fl?
Maximum ports of 16 10GbE or 160 GbE ports, The throughput is up to 238 million packets per second.

Q: What is the routing switch capacity for the 8100fl?
The routing switch capacity is 160G per second.

Q: What is included when purchasing an 8108fl (J8727A) and 8116fl (J8728A) Chassis?

  • (J8727A) 8108fl includes - 1 management module, 1 switch fabric module, and 1 power supply.
  • (J8728A) 8116fl includes - 1 management module, 1 switch fabric module, and 2 power supplies.

Q: How long is the warranty for the ProCurve Series 8100fl switches?
Each switch comes with a 1 year warranty. All parts (including Power Supplies and Fan Trays) are covered with next business day advanced replacement available in most countries.

Q: What interfaces are available to configure the 8100fl?
The switch can be configured via the command line interface (CLI).

  • Out-of-band: Connect a PC or VT-100 terminal directly to the switch using the RJ-45 to DB-9 adapter and straight-through cable that comes with each ProCurve Switch 8100fl. For console access, you can directly connect to the RJ-45 serial port on the top of the switch chassis or connect through a Telnet session to the 10/100Base-T Ethernet port on the management module.
  • In-band: Manage the switch using a Telnet session from a workstation on your network with a VT-100 terminal emulator. This method requires that you configure the switch with an IP address and a subnet mask by using either out-of-band console access or through DHCP/Bootp.
  • Supports Secure Shell (SSHv2) - encrypts all transmitted data for secure remote access over IP networks via the CLI.

Q: When my primary management module fails do I need to copy the configuration to the secondary management module?
No, in normal operation, whenever changes are made to the primary management module's startup configuration file, the changes are copied to the redundant management module's configuration file. In this way, if the primary management module fails, the secondary module has the configuration information necessary to take over as the primary.

Q: Do modules have LEDs that provide operational status of the switch and network connections?
Yes, the following tables explain the different LEDs and what they mean; [excerpt from the ProCurve Series 8100fl Switches Installation and Getting Started Guide ]

Management Module LED Color State Meaning
Management Module Active Green

Green

n/a
Flashing

Solid

Off
Negotiating active/backup management module(s) during boot sequence.

Module is active - normal.

Module is in back up mode.
Status n/a

Green

Green

Yellow/Orange
Off

Flashing

Solid

Flashing
No power to the module.

Module is booting up and downloading operating software.

Module is in Service - normal.

Self-test failure
10/100 Base-T Port
Activity(Act) n/a

Green
Off

Flashing
No data is being transferred and /or no connector is plugged into the port.

Transferring data.
Link n/a

Green
Off

Solid
No connector is plugged into port.

Link is up.

Switch Fabric Module LED Color State Meaning
Switch Fabric Module Active Green

Green

n/a
Flashing

Solid

Off
Negotiating active/backup switch fabric module(s) during boot sequence.

Module is active - normal.

Module is in back up mode.
Status n/a

Green

Green

Yellow/ Orange
Off

Flashing

Solid

Flashing
No power to the module.

Module is powering up and downloading operating software.

Module is in Service - normal.

Self-test failure

1-Port 10G LR Module LED Color State Meaning
1-Port 10G LR Module Activity (Act) Green

Green

Off
Flashing

Solid

Flashing
Transmitting data.

Link is up; no data is being transmitted.

When no connector is plugged into the port, the LED will flash approximately once every four seconds. This on/off cycle is a safety feature known as auto laser shutdown.
Link Green

n/a
Solid

Off
Link is up.

No connector is plugged into port.
Status n/a

Green

Green

Yellow/ Orange
Off

Flashing

Solid

Flashing
No power to the module.

Module is powering up and downloading operating software.

Software image loaded successfully.

Self-test failure

10-Port 100/1000 Base-T Module LED Color State Meaning
10-Port 100/1000 Base-T Module Link (per-port) Green

Amber

n/a
Solid

Solid

Off
Port is in 1000 Mbps mode.

Port is in 100 Mbps mode.

No connector is plugged into the port.
Activity (per-port) Green

n/a
Solid

Off
Transmitting data.

No data is being transferred, and/or no connector is plugged into the port.
Status n/a

Green

Green

Yellow/ Orange
Off

Flashing

Solid

Flashing
No power to the module.

Module is powering up and downloading operating software.

Software image loaded successfully.

Self-test failure

10-Port mini GBIC Module LED Color State Meaning
10-Port mini GBIC Module Activity (per-port) Green

Green

Off
Flashing

Solid

Flashing
Transmitting data.

Link is up; no data is being transferred.

When no connector is plugged into the port, the LED will flash approximately once every four seconds. This on/off cycle is a safety feature known as auto laser shutdown.
Link (per-port) Green

n/a
Solid

Off
Link is up.

No connector is plugged into port.
Status n/a

Green

Green

Yellow/ Orange
Off

Flashing

Solid

Flashing
No power to the module.

Module is powering up and downloading operating software.

Software image loaded successfully.

Self-test failure

1 Port-X2 10GbE Module LED Color State Meaning
1 Port-X2 10GbE Module Link Green

Orange

n/a
Solid

Flashing

Off
Link is up.

Self-test failure or unsupported transceiver. See error log for details.

No connector in plugged into the port.
Activity (Act) Green

Green

n/a
Flashing

Solid

Off
Transmitting data. Blink rate indicates traffic utilization of the port.

Traffic exceeds 90% of link capacity.

No connector is plugged into the port, or no traffic is being passed through the port.
Link and Activity (both port LEDs together) Orange/ Green/ Off Solid Orange (0.5 secs), then Solid Green (1.5 secs), and then off A transceiver has been correctly inserted into the transceiver port. After the insertion test, the LEDs will remain Off until a network cable is inserted into the transceiver and the LEDs follow their normal operational behavior.
Status n/a

Green

Green

Amber
Off

Flashing

Solid

Flashing
No power to the module.

Module is powering up and downloading operating software.

Software image loaded successfully.

Self-test failure

2-Port 10Gbe Module LED Color State Meaning
2-Port 10Gbe Module Activity (Act) Green

Green

n/a
Flashing

Solid

Off
Transmitting data. Blink rate indicates traffic utilization of the port.

Traffic exceeds 90% of link capacity.

No connector is plugged into the port, or no traffic is being passed through the port.
Link Green

Orange

n/a
Solid

Flashing

Off
Link is up.

Self test failure or unsupported transceiver. See error log for details.

No connector is plugged into the port.
Link and Activity (both port LEDs together) Orange/ Green/ Off Solid Orange (0.5 secs), then Solid Green (1.5 secs), and then off A transceiver has been correctly inserted into the transceiver port. After the insertion test, the LEDs will remain Off until a network cable is inserted into the transceiver and the LEDs follow their normal operational behavior.
Link, Activity and Status (all module LEDs together) Orange/ Green/ Off Solid Orange (0.5 secs), then Solid Green (1.5 secs), and then off The module is receiving initial power due to being inserted into the slot, and/or due to the slot being enabled via the CLI.
Status n/a

Green

Green

Yellow/Orange
Off

Flashing

Solid

Flashing
No power to the module.

Module is powering up and downloading operating software.

Software image loaded successfully.

Self-test failure

Q: What modules are available for the ProCurve Series 8100fl switches?
Currently the 8100fl supports the following modules:
Part Number Description Additional Information
J8729A ProCurve 8108fl Redundant Switch Fabric Module Operates in 8108fl only
J8730A ProCurve 8116fl Redundant Switch Fabric module Operates in 8116fl only
J8731A ProCurve Switch fl Redundant Management Module 1 J8731A ships with each Chassis
J8734A ProCurve Switch fl 10-Port 100/1000-T Interface Module Operates in both chassis
J8735A ProCurve Switch fl 10-Port Mini-GBIC Interface Module Operates in both chassis
J8736A ProCurve Switch fl 1-Port 10GbE X2 Interface Module Operates in both chassis

Q: What Mini-GBICs are supported on the 10-Port Mini-GBIC Module (J8735A)?
Currently the following Mini-GBICs are supported: (only B-version Mini-GBICs are supported by the 8100fl switch)
Part Number Description Additional Information
J8177B ProCurve Gigabit 1000Base-T Mini-GBIC Cabling
Type: 1000Base-T: Category 5 (5E or better recommended), 100 O differential 4-pair unshielded twisted pair (UTP) or shielded twisted pair (STP) balanced, complying with IEEE 802.3ab 1000Base-T

Maximum distance: 100 m

Requires specific code version for support:requires CY.01.02.0050 or greater
J4858B ProCurve Gigabit SX-LC Mini-GBIC Maximum distance:
  • 220 m (62.5 µm core diameter, 160 MHz/km bandwidth)
  • 275 m (62.5 µm core diameter, 200 MHz/km bandwidth)
  • 500 m (50 µm core diameter, 400 MHz/km bandwidth)
  • 550 m (50 µm core diameter, 500 MHz/km bandwidth)
J4859B ProCurve Gigabit-LX-LC Mini-GBIC Cabling
Type: either single-mode or multimode
  • Low metal content, single-mode fiber-optic, complying with ITU-T G.652 and ISO/IEC 793-2 Type B1
  • 62.5/125 µm or 50/125 µm (core/cladding) diameter, graded-index, low metal content, multimode fiber-optic, complying with ITU-T G.651 and ISO/IEC 793-2 Type A1b or A1a, respectively (a mode conditioning patch cord may be needed in some multimode fiber installations)
  • Maximum distance: 10 km (single mode) or 550 m (multimode)
J4860B ProCurve Gigabit-LH-LC Mini-GBIC Cabling
Type: low metal content, single-mode fiber-optic, complying with ITU-T G.652 and ISO/IEC 793-2 Type B1

Maximum distance: 70 km

Q: What transceivers are supported in the 1-Port 10GbE X2 Interface Module (J8736A)?
Part Number Description Additional Information
J8440A or J8440B ProCurve 10-GbE X2-CX4 Transceiver Cabling
Maximum distance:
  • 15 m using CX4 cables
  • 300 m using optical media converters (J8439A) and multimode fiber cable
J8436A ProCurve 10-GbE X2-SR Optic Cabling
Type: 62.5 µm (core/cladding) diameter or 50 µm, 850 nm, low metal content, multimode fiber-optic, complying with the ITU-T G.652 and ISO/IEC 793-2 Type B1 standards

Maximum distance:
  • 62.5 µm multimode cable @ 160 MHz/km = 2-26 meters
  • 62.5 µm multimode cable @ 200 MHz/km = 2-33 meters
  • 50 µm multimode cable @ 400 MHz/km = 2-66 meters
  • 50 µm multimode cable @ 500 MHz/km = 2-82 meters
  • 50 µm multimode cable @ 2000 MHz/km = 2-300 meters
J8437A ProCurve 10-GbE X2-LR Optic Cabling
Type: low metal content, single-mode fiber-optic cables, complying with the ITU-T G.652 and ISO/IEC 793-2 Type B1 standards

Maximum distance: 9/125 µm single-mode cable = 2 m-10 km
J8438A ProCurve 10-GbE X2-ER Optic Cabling
Maximum distance (single-mode): 30 km*

* Maximum distance 40 km using engineered link.

Q: Are any network cables provided?
No, ProCurve Networking by HP does not provide or sell cables to connect to interface modules.

Q: What 8100fl modules are not non-blocking?
The 2-port 10G X2 module is 2X oversubscribed. All other 8100fl modules are non-blocking.

Q: How many addresses can the routing table hold?
The 8100fl holds 100,000 IP addresses in its routing table.

Q: Does the 8100fl support access control lists?
Yes, hardware-based, the 8100fl supports access control lists at wire-speed.

Q: Does the 8100fl support port mirroring?
Yes, the ProCurve Switch 8100fl enables traffic on a port to be simultaneously sent to a network analyzer for monitoring. Read additional port mirroring information below:

To control the impact on performance, please consider the following guidelines:
  • Port mirroring can only be done in incoming traffic.
  • The increase in traffic effectively cuts the bandwidth of the port being mirrored in half.
    • If the link is over ~60% utilized (~6 Gbps), we can expect to see reduction in the throughput on that 10 Gig port. Lets say the link is 100% utilized - in this case, we would see around 4 Gbps of traffic dropped at the ingress card.
    • Incoming traffic that is dropped at the ingress port is not mirrored.
  • You can mirror a 10G target port to a 1G monitor port, but traffic volume greater than the monitor port can handle is dumped.
  • ProCurve recommends that you do not mirror a target port to a monitor port on the same line card.
  • Only one port can be mirrored in the chassis at any given time
  • There can only be one 'monitor' port in the chassis at any given time - i.e, traffic can only be mirrored to one port in the current release.
  • Mirroring traffic from a LAG is not supported.
  • Mirroring traffic to a LAG is not supported.

Q: Does the 8100fl support Jumbo frames?
Yes, Jumbo frames are supported. The 8100fl allows high-performance remote backup and disaster-recovery services on both 1-Port 10G and Gig modules.(up to 4 ports per module on Gigabit modules)

Q: Does the 8100fl support Multiple Spanning Tree?
Yes, (802.1s) Multiple Spanning Tree Protocol (MSTP) is supported. It provides efficient high link availability in multiple VLAN environments by allowing multiple coincident spanning trees; includes backward compatibility with Spanning Tree Protocol (IEEE 802.1D) and Rapid Spanning Tree Protocol (802.1w).

Q: Does the 8100fl support Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (VRRP)?
Yes, VRRP is supported. Up to 15 instances can be configured per IP interface (port, VLAN or LAG)

Q: Does the 8100fl support Port trunking?
Yes, for higher switch-to-switch throughput and link-level redundancy, with support for standards-based link aggregation (IEEE 802.3ad). The 8100fl switch supports up to 80 link aggregation groups (LAGs), each with up to 8 links (ports) per LAG; link aggregations across modules are also supported.

Q: Does the 8100fl support multicast snooping?
Yes, the ProCurve Switch 8100fl supports multicast snooping and data driven IGMP v2, v3 which automatically prevents flooding of IP Multicast traffic.

Q: Does the 8100fl support layer 3 standards based routing protocols?
Yes, the ProCurve Switch 8100fl supports routing IP at media speed, including support for static routes, RIP, RIPv2, and OSPF with ECMP.

Q: Does the 8100fl support hot swapping of modules?
Yes, hot swapping of modules and optics are both supported.

Q: Does the 8100fl support rate limiting?
Yes, only on the 2-port 10G X2 module for inbound traffic. Rate-limiting only applies to user traffic and not to control frames. The following types of control frames and protocols are not subject to rate-limiting: BPDU; OSPF; all routers; designated router; LACP; RIPv2; PIM; VRRP; System MAC.

Q: Does the 8100fl support QoS (Quality of Service)?
Yes, the 8100fl switch supports real-time traffic classification into 11 traffic classes mapped to 5 queues and up to 3 levels of RED (Random Early Detection) drop precedence, providing rich QOS capabilities.

Q: Does the 8100fl support PIM Dense Mode (PIM-DM)?
Version 2.5 software (available Spring 2007) supports Multicast routing PIM Dense mode which allows for fast, efficient layer 3 multicasting in routed networks.

Q: Does the 8100fl support configurations that guarantee minimum bandwidth per-port?
Yes, the 8100fl supports per-port, per queue guaranteed minimums that allow traffic to receive the guaranteed minimum bandwidth during times of congestion.

Q: How many power supplies are required for the 8108fl and 8116fl switches to be fully redundant?
The Switch 8108fl requires one power supply to operate a fully-populated chassis-an optional second power supply provides for redundancy. For the Switch 8116fl, two power supplies are required to operate a fully-populated chassis-an optional third power supply provides for N+1 redundancy.

Q: Do the ProCurve Series 8100fl switches support a redundant management module in case the primary management module fails?
Yes, each chassis supports 2 management modules, a primary and secondary in case of failure.

Q: When my primary management module fails do I need to copy the configuration to secondary management module?
No, in normal operation, whenever changes are made to the primary management module's startup configuration file, the changes are copied to the redundant management module's configuration file. In this way, if the primary management module fails, the secondary module has the configuration information necessary to take over as the primary.

Q: Does the 8100fl support a redundant switch fabric?
Yes, the ProCurve Series 8100fl switches support two switch fabric modules in each chassis. The switch fabric modules are not interchangeable between the 8108fl and the 8116fl.

Q: How long does it take to switch from primary switch fabric to secondary?
The system will switch to a new fabric in 0.2 seconds, providing rapid automatic active-standby module redundancy.

Q: Does the 8100fl support Virtual Router Redundancy Protocol (VRRP)?
Yes, VRRP is supported.

Q: Does the 8100fl support hot swapping of modules?
Yes, hot swapping of modules and optics are both supported.

Q: Does the 8100fl support access control lists?
Yes, hardware based, the 8100fl supports access control list at wire-speed.

Q: Does the 8100fl support VLANs and tagging?
Yes, the ProCurve Switch 8100fl supports complete 802.1Q (1,024 active VLANs across 4,096 VLAN IDs) and 180 routable VLAN interfaces.

Q: Does the 8100fl support SSHv2?
Yes, the switch supports Secure Shell (SSHv2) which encrypts all transmitted data for secure remote access of IP networks via the CLI.

Q: Does the 8100fl support switch management logon security?
Yes, the switch can be configured for either RADIUS or TACACS+ authentication for secure logon via the CLI.

Q: Does the 8100fl provide protection from denial of services attacks?
Yes, the ProCurve Series 8100fl switches are designed with processor self-protection architecture that defends the system against denial of service attacks.

Q: How many administrative Privilege levels are there on the 8100fl?
The switch supports 2 distinct access levels.

  • Level 0 places users at the Exec mode and limits their access to the commands at this level.
  • Level 15 places users at the privileged Exec mode and allows them full access to the CLI commands.

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